tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post8105776902083424046..comments2024-03-20T04:12:43.360-06:00Comments on Utah Birders | Birding Blog, Utah Birds, Utah Birding, Utah Bird ID: Really Bad Photos of Really Good BirdsUtah Birdershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14469804211127586442noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-80830903991938834172011-11-02T15:14:12.419-06:002011-11-02T15:14:12.419-06:00@Jerry:. Sh%t I blew my cover... haha. It would b...@Jerry:. Sh%t I blew my cover... haha. It would be dishonest of me to say you haven't corrected a couple of my pictures, and you have, and I am grateful. <br /><br />There are some surprisingly difficult looking birds to ID and I have had my fair share of them. Now, I'm afraid of what you're going to find going through my shots! :)Tim Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17632013488170310609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-56100268310500931742011-11-02T13:16:54.397-06:002011-11-02T13:16:54.397-06:00Oh my god Tim....hope you didn't think I was r...Oh my god Tim....hope you didn't think I was referring to your pics! I just meant on the internet in general of course. <br /><br />Besides, you don't have any raptor misID's on your site....wait, let me check before I say that.Jerry Liguorinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-23677989321870558862011-11-02T13:13:13.086-06:002011-11-02T13:13:13.086-06:00@Jerry: Thanks god there were only a couple on my ...@Jerry: Thanks god there were only a couple on my site that you've found... Had there been dozens I might have to give up. :)Tim Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17632013488170310609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-27075191105177755182011-11-02T12:59:08.059-06:002011-11-02T12:59:08.059-06:00Great comment Greg!!!
The advances in photography...Great comment Greg!!!<br /><br />The advances in photography and the amount of people taking photos these days has had an amazing influence on Birding and records. Not to mention how much we can learn by all the photos available to view.<br /><br />I was never a skeptic, but I will say that I see more misidentified raptor photos than I thought I would. I also see some great documentation of rarities.Jerry Liguorinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-54501551428880343132011-11-01T16:19:46.990-06:002011-11-01T16:19:46.990-06:00I have seen bad photos that make the bird look lik...I have seen bad photos that make the bird look like another, less rare, species! In some cases, such a photo has caused the records committee to not accept the record. In other cases, later photos turned out better.<br /><br />Of course, sometimes the photo shows unequivocally that what was claimed was actually not seen.... <br /><br />With the advent of inexpensive and rather good digital cameras (even on camera phones!) it is usually possible to get some kind of photo. Such a documentation can go a long ways toward confirming an ID. Nearly any photo, even a bad one, can be used to confirm general pattern or shape, and at least help confirm or deny the ID.<br /><br />GregAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15047133202447295521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-42287505753790556222011-10-31T21:16:42.831-06:002011-10-31T21:16:42.831-06:00Crappy photos of starlings would be funny....I get...Crappy photos of starlings would be funny....I get excited about rarities too. I have crappy photos of some Utah rarities.<br /><br />Glad I could bust your balls.Jerry Liguorinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-91510287783167340672011-10-31T20:24:48.245-06:002011-10-31T20:24:48.245-06:00@Stephanie: I totally understand the feeling. The...@Stephanie: I totally understand the feeling. The one thing I notice is that some people spend ten minutes trying to get a photo of a bird that they only get bad or blurry shots of--when that 10 minutes could've been used to study the bird quite closely to consult a field guide. It's a toss up. If the bird is easy to photograph then yes it is well worth it to get that photo. Otherwise you will see far more by studying the bird. And yes good optics are very helpful in this. And of course everyone learns differently--so capturing the photos may be the most helpful way to remember those field marks. Thanks for your comments!<br /><br />@Jerry: You're damn right my friend! I can't help myself! I thought about doing crappy photos of starlings, sparrows, and finches, but thought this was more intriguing. I will probably down the line do a follow up called, "good photos of great birds". Truth be told I do tend to get more excited about the rarities but always enjoy some great common birds--like Western Tanager, Lesser Goldfinch, Northern Harrier, and Wilson's Warblers (among others). Now if I could just get you to show me some Broad-wingeds at close distance, I could add some good pictures of a good bird!Tim Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17632013488170310609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-35611369689015699772011-10-31T18:43:59.689-06:002011-10-31T18:43:59.689-06:00Tim, you bird snob....what, only rare birds are &q...Tim, you bird snob....what, only rare birds are "good birds"? You kill me, didn't I post an entry on "seen any good birds lately", where I rant like a little bitch crybaby.<br /><br />Hah, just teasing of course (but you knew that), I find myself saying the exact same words...guilty, and no qualms about it.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6954081165153280225.post-71123345072060988832011-10-31T12:47:22.997-06:002011-10-31T12:47:22.997-06:00Great insight, Tim. I always feel like I need to ...Great insight, Tim. I always feel like I need to photograph everything I see and ID it later because I'm such an inexperienced birder and I'm afraid I won't remember all the details of what I saw and be able to ID it in the field. And it works out in some cases. Others not so well. <br /><br />Probably my best example of a bad photo, good bird, was of this Common Nighthawk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bubblesteph/6299741280/<br /><br />I could see something out of the norm flying through the air, but without capturing it and seeing the characteristic white stripes on the underside of the wings, I would have never known. So, in this case, my camera was the only thing that enabled me to ID the bird. BUT, I think that as I gain more experience, I will rely more on field observation. That, and, I need to get myself some good binocs.Stephanie Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16857938596820726359noreply@blogger.com